Dreams as closed spaces within consciousness

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In writing these posts on an extensive subject generally comes down more to what I don't write than what I do write. I could waffle on for hours . . . , and it is up to the reader to ask for clarification, which I can do.

In the paragraph:

I said the practice was temporary in my garden, well that is because the practice originates in the Hindu, and subsequently my garden got a lot of attention from other-worldly Hindu people who would visit here. That upset my garden's little Nature spirits, and so the practice was stopped. A similar thing with Biodynamic agriculture methods I employed here. That brings Anthroposophists in its wake.

I should add that when I say "the Hindu" what I actually mean is the Hindu dreamscape. The same when I refer to Anthroposophy as in the dreamscape of Anthroposophy. One can also say the Catholic dreamscape for that matter. They all work on the same principal; shared interactive dreamscapes. One could use the word world instead of dreamscape as a synonym in the context of this thread. "The spiritual worlds" for example, implies more than one spiritual world. That is what they are, worlds separate from each other.  Ideologies too.

The catch, the trap one might say, is the Catholics said that their religion includes everything. That implies that there is nothing outside Catholicism because "god" made everything.  If we take the Catholic word for it, well, we can't go or see outside.  The new age has it's "universe", a similar thing. That is how these things work.

   

Grok?

So when I used Agnihotra and Biodynamics in my garden what actually occured was I included nodes to other dreamscapes, which the Nature Beings didn't appreciate.  That is why I stopped the practices. One can look at these things in terms of computer networking;  network nodes were created linking other dreamscapes to my garden's shared interactive dreamscape.

The greys  tried this out on me one time with the opening words: "All is one." - my response was a sarcastic ; "yeah right . . ." We got on on fairly equal terms after that.

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So let's take a look at the role of dreams and their relationship to hallucinogenics, and in turn we can then gain insights into the sharman's practices. It is all related in a very practical way.

In Lucid Dreaming (LD'ing) the body is asleep, and the consciousness is awake. We can consciously do things in the LD. That seems to be the principal of some Remote Viewing (RV'ing) techniques.

When we use hallucinogenics, the body is awake, and we are dreaming. Think of the hallucinogenic experience as a dream overlay on our waking consciousness.

I have mentioned the basics elsewhere here on Cypher Age (CA), I shall quickly run through it again. We don't need esoteric jargon, nor do we need quantum physics. It is deceptively simple really.

What we will use is Euclidean geometry and a branch of mathematics called topology. Euclidean geometry got its name from a Greek philosopher by the name of Euclid.  Euclidean geometry is basically what arises from the three-dimensional view of the world.

So length x width x height. We all know this.

Here is a tennis ball.

   

Now let's add two more dimensions, inside and outside to make five dimensions (5D).

   

The tennis ball has a boundary that separates inside and outside.

That is 5D in a nutshell : )

If we kick our tennis ball, we add the dimension of motion/time, so six dimensions.

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Now we need to understand surfaces.

Topology is the mathematics that describes surfaces. All we really need to know here is surfaces are boundaries. The surface of a tennis ball is the boundary between the dimensions of inside and outside.


So let's look at a two dimensional object (2D).

A 2D object has width x height (and zero depth). A window for example. Another example is the looking glass (mirror). In both cases the surface is between the glass and the air. The same with a pond or lake. The surface exists between the water and the air. It is said that Naostradamus used a bowl of water and ink to scry the future. We can call that an example of using a 2D surface as a window.

In the Arthurian legend, Nemue, the Lady of the Lake, would arise from the surface of the water.  That is an example of using a surface as a 2D doorway.

Lewis Carroll's Through The Looking Glass And what Alice Found There is another example of the 2D doorway. 

   

We can also think of our tennis ball as a 2D object. The inside and outside is the important consideration. In practice, the inside size is not constrained by the outside dimensions. Theoretically, the inside of a sphere can be virtually infinite. This is so in consciousness. In a way, external dimensions are very difficult to estimate when we are working with consciousness. So we don't need to be concerned with measurements here.

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Once we grasp 5D and boundaries, we can begin to move on to navigation. In standard GPS navigation, our computer screen shows a map with our position in the centre. We stay stationary and the map moves. In consciousness, we are also the centre of the universe, and everything else is relative to us and our position. In practice, navigation can be called relative positioning. We move in relation to objects that are separate from us.

If we think in terms of the universe as an undifferentiated sea of consciousness, we are ignoring boundaries.

Everything has a boundary, you, me, the cat, everything is separated by the boundaries of their consciousness.  If this were not so, we would not have a sense of self, a sense of me. Nor would there be a you. So ego is not a dirty word, we need ego or there is no "I", "me" or "you".

So our undifferentiated sea of consciousness now becomes a sea full of bubbles, a sea of foam. All those bubbles have boundaries.

These bubbles of individual consciousness are not neatly arranged in a tidy geometric pattern. They do move around. We also have the fact that everything changes. So one may think of a bubble within the waters of time.

Our little bubbles of consciousness can also exist within bigger bubbles.  An example here is a collective consciousness such as an ideology, religion, nation, egregore, and the family. A world can be defined in this way too.

I can enlarge on this now and in the future for those who want to understand.

I shall leave this post at this point, and in the near future we shall look at some practical things that can be understood using this model. The shamanic, the hallucinogenic, and even the so-called schizophrenia.