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Shadow People

The chimney worm is a worm that lives in disused chimneys. It lives in the soot, which is carbon. Like a hollow tube, taking after the form of the soot in the chimney.

How I learned about this shadow critter was when the worm extended itself into the room from the mouth of the slow combustion wood heater. It was summer, and I was sitting in front of the heater dowsing. That is when my mind went very grey. An endless grey that stretched in all directions, and one was utterly alone. The feeling is not being in touch with the world any more. What had happened was the worm engulfed me. So the problem was how to get out. A few hours later the answer came - One was inside the worm, and wanted to be outside the worm, and that is a matter of relative positioning.

So we have a shadow critter living in the soot (carbon) of the chimney with the ability to extend itself into the room, which gives a sense of gloom and detachment if it gets you. Now that is a problem and small children would be at risk. I wonder if a sudden depression in children can be accounted to this, as it was me. We don't want that to happen, so a remedy needed to be worked out. The remedy turned out to be simple - light a fire. That is because the salamanders, as the alchemists call the fire spirits, eat the chimney worm. So a matter of sweeping the chimney and cleaning the firebox. Something that should be done in spring when the weather warms up. If in doubt, one can light a fire even in summer.

So our alchemy has so far fire and carbon. What comes next was something unexpected and as far as I am concerned an accident. So don't think I have studied alchemy.

There is a Vedic practice by the name of Agnihotra. Here is a link to the website of the people who practice it: Agnihotra Australia.

What one does is burn cow dung and ghee at the exact moment of sunrise and sunset in an inverted copper pyramid. The idea is to purify the surrounding environment and oneself. It works as they say on the Agnihotra website. I know because I used it in my garden for quite some time. The difficulty is the practice must be done exactly as they say, every morning and every evening at the exact time. The ash is also used in the garden. Though I must admit that I dispensed with the rice and the Vedic chant. I didn't want the neighbours to hear me doing that. The practice still worked. That suggests that what is absolutely important is the times of days, cow dung and ghee along with the pyramid and fire. The rice was an offering.

Here is an 8 minute video of building the fire. It shows the inverted copper pyramid.



Curiously, here is a photo of another inverted pyramid, one of the step wells from ancient times.

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Candi Tikus, a 14th century bathing place and step well in Majapahit empire capital city,
Trowulan Archaeological Park, East Java, Indonesia

Image via Wikimedia Commons.

Can you see the similarity with the Agnihotra fire? (Bathing place? Yeah right.)

Anyway, one evening it was raining, and I thought I would light the fire inside the house in the slow combustion heater box to clean the house. Next morning when it was time to do it again I found a small golden snake curled up in the ash in the copper pyramid. Not a physical snake, more of a psychic visual thing. The snake was the transformed chimney worm. So we take the ash and snake into the garden and put it under a large gum tree. Over the summer the snake grew and now has more heads. Now it is not so much a shadow one sees in the peripheral vision, rather a defined presence. It is a girl by the way, and she smiles in a way that is lights up one's mood.

It is winter here now, and I light the (ordinary) fire in the slow combustion heater within the house, and that is where she has taken up residence. She moved from the garden and inside the house. Interestingly, the fire does not harm her now, unlike when she was just a simple chimney worm.

I have the impression that it was the Vedic fire that changed her, "evolved" might be a preferable term. She now reminds me of a Nagi which is a snake god in the temples of India.

Quote:In various Asian religious traditions, the Nāgas are a divine, or semi-divine, race of half-human, half-serpent beings that reside in the netherworld (Patala), and can occasionally take human or part-human form, or are so depicted in art. A female nāga is called a Nagin, or a Nagini. According to legend, they are the children of the sage Kashyapa and Kadru. Rituals devoted to these supernatural beings have been taking place throughout South Asia for at least 2,000 years. They are principally depicted in three forms: as entirely human with snakes on the heads and necks, as common serpents, or as half-human, half-snake beings in Hinduism and Buddhism.

Source: Wikipedia Naga

So if we look again at the step well photo above, we can get an appreciation that the ancients built these temples, not just as somewhere to pray to spirits, but rather as practical alchemical devices that may have created gods from shadow creatures. By the way, it was ksihkehe who saw the similarity with copper pyramid and the step well and gave me the heads-up.

So let's take another look at the shadow tube cat:

   

He lives in the shrubs near a bird bath in the garden. Now here it is common practice to clean up fallen leaves and branches by raking them into a pile and setting it alight. Which of course leaves behind ash and charcoal. My feeling is the tube cat has its origin in the coals (carbon) in the same way as the chimney worm grew out of the carbon in my chimney.

Now let's take note of what Rudolf Steiner said of carbon in the Biodynamic Agriculture lectures.

Quote:CARBON

Carbon, in effect, is the bearer of all the creatively formative processes in Nature. Whatever in Nature is formed and shaped be it the form of the plant persisting for a comparatively short time, or the eternally changing configuration of the animal body — carbon is everywhere the great plastician”. To build these forms, carbon uses sulphur.

The Carbon Cycle in Man

Man inhales oxygen, “unites” it with carbon, and exhales carbon dioxide. The amount of carbon, taken by Steiner as the source of stiffness, is reduced by respiration. This is what keeps man mobile. Plants, by contrast, are stiff because they have more carbon, taking it in as the exhaled carbon dioxide, keeping the carbon and expelling oxygen. Man excretes some carbon, combined with the oxygen, as carbonic acid.

The Spiritual forces move through the physical world on the paths of carbon.


~ Steiner.

So basically carbon builds the framework of living things, especially in plants such as trees. Carbon also needs sulphur to do this. Both carbon and sulphur are often mentioned in the alchemical texts. The Spiritual forces move through the physical world on the paths of carbon.

The chimney worm is a hollow tube and gets nourishment from the up draft of the chimney. Now I feed the evolved chimney worm (snake) a little bit of powdered sulphur sprinkled lightly on the wood when I light the fire. I get the urge to do this, which is hers. Sulphur according to Steiner is one of the light bearers in the household of nature, Spiritual forces that move on the paths of carbon. Phosphorus, by the way, is another light bearer. Eventually we will see what she grows into, perhaps the end of winter.

That is a small bit of practical alchemy discovered by accident. Perhaps how the ancients created spirit Beings from shadow creatures that arose from carbon. One must keep in mind that carbon can be found in coal deposits. One wonders if this is the source of many shadow beings.

While we are on the subject of ancient Vedic practices, I may as well mention the kundalini. Back on ATS member KPB and I were discussing the kundalini. KPB had actually gone through the proces. We both came to the same conclusion when comparing field notes, and it was KPB who coined the definition of kundalini, he defined it as the installation of a non-standard intellegence in the human body.

Of course the kundalini is said to be a serpent curled up at the base of the spine and which through some means extends upward to the head.

Which in tern reminds me of the Buddah reclining on a seven headed snake. Here is a statue from whikipedia.

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Digambara Parshivanatha 24th Jain Digambara Teertankara
Image via Wikimedia Commons

I don't know for sure, but it does make one wonder . . .

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Okay, let's go into a difficult subject within that of shadow people. To put it simply, that would be the subject of the deceased. Up until now, we have described non-human shadow life for the most part. We have also an understanding of carbon, and sulphur as it is in the household of nature, to borrow a term from Rudolf Steiner and Anthroposophy. Now I am not a Steiner person, I've just read some of his lectures when younger and have implemented Steiner's biodynamic agriculture in my garden. One learns these things as field work.

Now the deceased can sometimes be counted as shadow people (smile), that is the reason why the word "people" is used.

Usually, in YouTube videos anyway, they are portrayed as scary. It probably sells more views that way. Plus, there is a lot of superstition involved. I would like to dispel that here. What one is dealing with is people, miserable diseased people, within my experience anyway. Needless to say, my priority is shadow children. They just want to feel better and don't care how, they are very accepting of assistance in this regard. Adults on the other hand often have a lot of baggage, and usually religious baggage at that. Which makes adults very difficult if not impossible to deal with.

Keep in mind, these are essentially my field notes, and a work in practice.

So with that introduction out of the way, I have recently found a deceased shadow girl who was in her early teens when she passed away. Rather, she found me. She asked for help, and in return she wants to help with deeper understanding of what it is like to be a shadow person. The young lady informs me she has been watching from the shadows for quite some time.

There is a similarity with shadow chimney worm in that the worm is very much "lightless" originally, That is, the carbon pathways are not illuminated. With the addition of sulphur, we see spiritual light beginning to illuminate the carbon pathways.

While the chimney worm was primarily carbon, the shadow girl is miserable. The misery shows up in people, both living and deceased as a black soot that accumulates and clogs the consciousness. In practice, it turns out that carbon and misery are related.

This post is an introduction into what may be called an "advanced" yet also a sensitive subject. I also wanted to introduce my new assistant.

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This thread is turning into more of a diary than simply field notes, and that is okay.

Shadow-girl stayed the night and looks to be settling in well enough. Yesterday, our communication was very simple mime on her part and I had to figure it out. Today, she can sense my thoughts, and I can hear her.

This morning, while doing the breakfast dishes, shadow-girl said something interesting and informative.  A view of us, from the shadow perspective.

What I was thinking of at the time was something that happened a few years ago.

My work involved a lot of driving, some 2,000 km / 1,200 miles every week. So the company I worked for had us stay at accommodation once a fortnight.  One accommodation was a guest house in the town of Dalwallinu here in Western Australia. This is the place: The Old Convent.

Like a lot of old buildings with a history, some odd things happen there.

Some of those oddities were hearing creaky floorboards on the stairs and seeing things out of the corner of the eye.  Things like that. It was here that I would get a visitor at night when I stayed there. A deceased nun in her mid-twenties, who would come and talk of god as a missionary would do.  We got to know each other in time. She arrived in the town as a war orphan, some time in the 1940s, and died a decade or so later.  She wasn't the only one there, the old ducks were not far away.

In the course of our conversations, I was asked about my life, so I would tell her about the outside world.  A very sheltered young woman, so I suggested why not come with me, and I'll show her other places. 

The young lady must have given that serious thought. Because not long after, and before I returned, one of the bosses in the company walked up to me out of the blue and asked if I needed to stay away to do my work. I said "no". He then said "no more camping away", and turned away and walked off. I thought that really strange.

My educated guess here is the ol' ducks at the nunnery arranged that, so I wouldn't return and take the young one away.

It was while reminiscing on that encounter that I wondered what shadow people think of us in the wider general perspective.

Shadow-girl simply commented: "Home wreckers". A moment later, she qualified her previous statement;  "A force that destroys".

The first was an honest emotional answer (home wreckers). The second is a considered response.

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Shadow-girl told me off - her name is Lisa. So I shall use her name here instead of "shadow-girl".

She obviously thinks my naming convention sucks.

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The problem apparently was that I was using labels, "shadow girl" as an example. Upon reflection, it is condescending on my part. Though the young lady doesn't mind the term the girl from the shadows. There is a nuance there, she does not mind.

However, I need to use terms that everyone can understand as referring to from the shadows, or from "here". So what we shall do to avoid confusion is to place the word shadow in brackets thus: (shadow). This is acceptable to her.

I shall do the same with the word deceased (deceased). I can tell just from being near her that the word deceased is impolite, if not redundant.

There is an analogy here with visiting a foreign country and interacting with the people there. Some things we say and do, are offensive there. Not taking your street shoes off before entering a Japanese home, for example.

After all, the shadow world may as well be a foreign country, along with its inhabitants. If others follow me there, they may as well know how to behave.

In my language, this is called making progress.

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Having a girl from the shadows as a house guest isn't as big a thing as some folks might think. She is a teenager, and a normal girl. At the moment she is moping in the spare room for the most part after a confession last night that she was here for her own benefit and not the altruistic one she gave me originally. She just wanted help, the (shadow) world she is used to wasn't pleasant for her. Both of us need to adapt.

Which brings me to an important observation of the shadow world, and the people there. There isn't anything altruistic about it, not that I have noticed anyway. Not that much different to the world we live in. Everyone has their sorrows and regrets, everyone has hardship, everyone wants to live.

The longer I study the subject, the more remote becomes the grand ideas of religion, the occultists, and the new-age. The ideas of spiritual evolution, governance and so on. The sad thing is, a lot of people get left behind. A similar story to this world.

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An interesting observation from the girl from the shadows today. She said that she likes my "plant". That would be the (shadow) snake that currently resides in my wood heater and chimney.

The implication here is that the chimney worm is still plant like or still has more in common with plant consciousness than an independent, self-aware reptile. Perhaps "elemental" may be a better word.

I have to say that this is the first time I have ever considered cultivating these (shadow) creatures.

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Have had a few odd things happen here recently.

First a modern light globe began to flicker, and misbehave for a few days. When I thought I would replace it, it worked again.
Then an old fashioned light bulb did the same. I presumed the filament was burning out. When I decided to replace it, it worked again.
The third occurrence was a new fluorescent tube that did the same thing. I didn't bother.

All within a fortnight.

Today I made a cup of coffee and rolled a smoke to have on the front verandah. I couldn't find my cup of coffee. Looked everywhere and then made another one, thinking I must have forgotten. So roll another smoke and absent mindedly picked up my cup of coffee only to find it was not hot and half empty. I had two cups of coffee.

Somebody nearby was quite chuffed with her pranks, and no doubt practicing . . .

I have to admit to thinking "poltergeist activity" has some things in common with the shadow phenomenon since starting this thread.

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(06-18-2025, 05:33 AM)NobodySpecial268 Wrote: Have had a few odd things happen here recently.

First a modern light globe began to flicker, and misbehave for a few days. When I thought I would replace it, it worked again.
Then an old fashioned light bulb did the same. I presumed the filament was burning out. When I decided to replace it, it worked again.
The third occurrence was a new fluorescent tube that did the same thing. I didn't bother.

All within a fortnight.

Today I made a cup of coffee and rolled a smoke to have on the front verandah.  I couldn't find my cup of coffee. Looked everywhere and then made another one, thinking I must have forgotten. So roll another smoke and absent mindedly picked up my cup of coffee only to find it was not hot and half empty. I had two cups of coffee.

Somebody nearby was quite chuffed with her pranks, and no doubt practicing . . .

I have to admit to thinking  "poltergeist activity" has some things in common with the shadow phenomenon since starting this thread.

That would have me out of there.

I can handle bears or mountain lions or whatever, but, not poltergeist, nope.

I have experienced 'shadow' like movement from my peripheral vision where I could swear something is moving, that's creepy enough for me.

Beer
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(06-18-2025, 07:02 PM)MykeNukem Wrote: That would have me out of there.

I can handle bears or mountain lions or whatever, but, not poltergeist, nope.

I have experienced 'shadow' like movement from my peripheral vision where I could swear something is moving, that's creepy enough for me.

Beer

That word gets people, doesn't it : )

The P-word?  The R-word (Russia) spooks a lot of people even more : )

Ahem, best if we don't go there . . .

Still, we will have to deal with the negative perceptions in this thread sooner or later.  I have plenty of those anecdotes up my sleeve.

The word poltergeist has a lot of negative baggage, and it doesn't help that there was that movie by the same name.  Where the greedy real estate developer built a housing estate over a cemetery, and the kid disappeared into the television set.

The scary stuff does happen.

One time KPB brought the subject up on ATS. He quite rightly pointed out that the new-age practices of 'clearing bad spirits' doesn't actually work. They usually just vacate the house until all the fuss is over, and then come back.  I have to agree with KPB, that is what happens.

So one has to have a different approach to these things. Instead of eviction, one needs problem-solving skills. The question arrives, why are they there?

Sadly, it may just be a case of building the house in the wrong place. It doesn't do any good to tell someone who has just got themselves into a big mortgage that they should never have bought the property in the first place. The Irish will tell you that a house built on one of the fairy-roads is asking for sleepless nights.  I have lived on the Australian equivalent of one of those.

So what one has to do, and this is my approach, is work out what the actual problem is and then work the rest out.

When I was a kid we lived in a house where the dead alcoholics walked to the brewery every night to soak in the alcohol.  They were cruel to little kids who could see them.  Another place where my mother lived in her last days was also on one of the fairy-roads.  I stayed there for a few weeks while tidying up her affairs, and every bloody night I was woken in the early hours. A noisy 3AM religious parade came through the rear and out the front. My mother never noticed it, but I did.

In these cases, all one can do is move house.  Good luck getting a Catholic priest to "exorcise" the deceased Greek Orthodox people when they march. 

Argh, exorcists, let's not go there , , ,  Suffice it to say they are the most universally hated of all people.

Anyway, my cup of coffee disappeared somehow. It was right in front of me all the time and I didn't see it. I asked the young lady concerned; "how did you do that?". She isn't going to let me in on that secret. That's okay though. I will learn more in the long run if I don't ask too many questions.

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