Shadow People

[NobodySpecial268]

I thought I should write a little about the new household member from the shadows. The girl is not an adult. If she were, she would not be here. The reason being is adults should learn to look after themselves. Kids, on the other hand, need some sort adult supervision.

Kids, be they living or deceased are vulnerable, especially girls.

In this, the other world is not that much different to this world. There are orphans, and there are a few adults who will prey on children.

So the relationship with the girl from the shadows is to provide somewhere safe. That is the thing about children, they need to feel safe and have familiar surroundings.  One does not have to be a substitute parent, uncle or anything else.  So don't even try.

The protection and safety is provided, and she will get used to the place in time.

That said, the girl will have to contribute to the household. Since she is in the shadow world, she notices things that I don't.

This may all seem rather mundane, but that is the reality.  It isn't floating furniture, handprints on the walls and bumps in the night.  I think the clue here is the young (shadow) lady is not feeling threatened. So why would she try to get rid of me. Keep in mind here her honest comment of (living) people as being "home wreckers".

(smile - and I may get into trouble with her for saying this : )  What makes a poltergeist, a poltergeist?

Well that may just be attitude, and a reason to be miserable and angry.

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We're making dinner and I was thinking about the word poltergeist. I feel the objection, the insult if you will, is the baggage that accompanies the words we use, the labels. Poltergeist has some unpleasant associations.

In German folklore and ghostlore, a poltergeist is a type of ghost or spirit that is responsible for physical disturbances, such as loud noises and objects being moved or destroyed. Most claims or fictional descriptions of poltergeists show them as being capable of pinching, biting, hitting, and tripping people. They are also depicted as capable of the movement or levitation of objects such as furniture and cutlery, or noises such as knocking on doors. Foul smells are also associated with poltergeist occurrences, as well as spontaneous fires and different electrical issues such as flickering lights.

Souce: wikipedia

The movie of the same name doesn't help.

Though I must say that floating furniture hasn't happened here. Smells do occure, but that has been the scent of vanilla. Other people notice that at times.

Still it isn't good practice to label "people".

The word "entity" is disliked too.

My own feeling on the matter is these names are labels. When we use labels we are not seeing them for who they are.

[Nugget]

I am trying really, really hard to put myself in your shoes and see where you're coming from. I mean no disrespect, but what I see is a fantasy world creted from ones' imagination.

It may well be that I'm missing something vital, or my upbring and world perspective has created a divide that I can't mentally cross.

It seems to me that 99.999% of 'paranormal' are quite normal abilities we all have, but are unable to use (for the most part) because:

A) We don't know we have these abilities.

B) We don't know how to fully use them, for those who are aware.

C) Few, if any, have learned how to control them.

Because of my views on the matter I have looked at the PSI field and any research I can find to validate my position. I once read a university researh paper that was investigating the poltergeist phenomenon and in every case studied there was a prepubescent teen in residence. It made me wonder if the energy wasn't somehow connected to higher levels of fluctuating hormones that were unregualted. 

Even if I try to take out ny obvious bias on the subject I just can't make a connection, other than I very much like your writing, and you! Maybe I'm just not meant to understand, but just enjoy the read?

Please don't take my words the wrong way; I mean no disrespect. I'm reminded of my fascination wiyth Greek mythology, and no matter how much I read and try to understand it makes little sense; too many gods with too many aliases for my brain to follow. It's like trying to read a family tree connecting all of humanity back to the very beginning.

[NobodySpecial268]

I don't expect anyone to jump into these things, so don't worry Nugget. 

One of the difficulties is translating these experiences into plain English without the jargon. The other difficulty perhaps for anyone who reads what I write is trying to place things into a framework of understanding. For example, if we are looking through Jungian coloured glasses, we can't connect to what is beyond Jung.  In a way, I feel Jung had a job to do and that was to disconnect people from a deeper, connected way of perceiving. You made that suggestion yourself.

Decades ago I had a large library of occult, theosophical and philosophical books.  I was proudly encyclopedic in that I could quote passages till the cows come home. Then one day I realised that was all book learning. I did not know anything first hand. That is generally crushing to the ego, and it takes quite some time to get used to knowing nothing at all. What I did was simply decided to learn everything first hand for myself. In other words, I made the effort to forget everything I thought I knew.  Everything else happened on its own when I did that. I just found my place with the deceased for the most part. A lot of help is needed there. (sad smile) the Anubis (plural) are overworked and dour, and the renumeration is lousy. No one wants to do this work any more.

I guess I write in the way I do to bring things down to earth in a very mundane way. 

Perhaps too mundane?

[NobodySpecial268]

I once read a university researh paper that was investigating the poltergeist phenomenon and in every case studied there was a prepubescent teen in residence. It made me wonder if the energy wasn't somehow connected to higher levels of fluctuating hormones that were unregualted. 

I'm old and live alone, and the immediate neighbours are old too. Yet there are mild occurrences here. That said, there are deceased girls in that age group, lots of them. That includes my current house guest. The demographics of all the (deceased) girls I have collected over the years often puzzled me. All are deceased, and with a few exceptions, are European, between seven and fourteen years of age and female.

The oldest was twenty when she died, and a modern day exception. One Amazigh (Berber) of about eight, she has the tattoo on her chin - she is the only Muslim girl. There has only ever been one boy who is inseparable from his sister, they both died in a fire.

So there is a question here.

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Afterthought: I should add to the list of demographics. Without exception, all the (deceased) kids under my care died under terrible circumstances, this includes suicides. Many were victims of the public hysteria of the church, where innocent people were burned, raped and tortured. The dark ages that covered about a thousand years of European history. Their primary crime was to have the equivalent of invisible friends.

[Nugget]

I'm now left to woner if all of the published information is a consensus to convince people alternate realities don't exist. I know they poo-poo the idea of empaths and things like mind reading abilities, but I also know for a fact that all the 'experts' are wrong. 

My curiosity is not in wondering if different, strange phenomenon exist, but rather why and how. I don't suspect I'll ever find the answers, though....at least not while I'm here in this realm.

[NobodySpecial268]

I'm now left to woner if all of the published information is a consensus to convince people alternate realities don't exist. I know they poo-poo the idea of empaths and things like mind reading abilities, but I also know for a fact that all the 'experts' are wrong. 

My curiosity is not in wondering if different, strange phenomenon exist, but rather why and how. I don't suspect I'll ever find the answers, though....at least not while I'm here in this realm.

I agree with you Nugget, in both points. Especially the why and how. And your last remark is true too, we will all find out eventually all about the afterlife, that is a certainty. So why all the interest in finding out while still alive? Fear I suppose.

I'm with you on the question of the "why and how".

Oh, and by the way the new girl is settling in. We have been watching a Japanese cartoon series where the household has a spirit living there. She was quite taken by the idea of being the household resident "ghost".

Yesterday, it was cold here, and the fire was keeping the house warm. I went out for a cigarette and didn't close the door behind me. When I noticed, I couldn't be bothered to close it, thinking I will do that when I go in. All it required was to open the screen door and reach out my arm. Then the main door closed, almost in my face. I did think maybe I left the back door open, and it was a breeze that closed the front door.

Or maybe someone is practicing.

[Nugget]

 So why all the interest in finding out while still alive? Fear I suppose.

I lost someone very dear to me when I was 18 and have been obsessed with finding answers ever since. Mostly, I've just found more questions....

[NobodySpecial268]

I lost someone very dear to me when I was 18 and have been obsessed with finding answers ever since. Mostly, I've just found more questions....

I can tell you what happens. In a general sense, from all the cases over the years and observations. There isn't much in common with the widely held beliefs. Considerations are dependent on demographics largely, and circumstances in some cases. Specific cases are not appropriate for an open forum.

I don't mind talking about these things in general if I am asked.

[Ksihkehe]

Because of my views on the matter I have looked at the PSI field and any research I can find to validate my position. I once read a university researh paper that was investigating the poltergeist phenomenon and in every case studied there was a prepubescent teen in residence. It made me wonder if the energy wasn't somehow connected to higher levels of fluctuating hormones that were unregualted.

There will be a specific mention of this relationship between young females and poltergeists in The Vertical Plane. I tend to agree with the assessment based on the the credible accounts from incidents I've come across. Genius loci is sometimes used to describe the guardian spirits of a place. Poltergeists might be energetic forces that have become a loci, not necessarily intelligent beings and more a doofus loci, that are acting out of pure stimulus response. I would very much like an opportunity to visit a place that has this kind of activity, or any activity, really.

I don't know how to go about finding locals that experience these problems. There are occasionally people willing to open up a bit and talk about a single weird experience if you get them on the topic in a roundabout way, but isolated experiences aren't really what I'm interested in.

I'm now left to woner if all of the published information is a consensus to convince people alternate realities don't exist. I know they poo-poo the idea of empaths and things like mind reading abilities, but I also know for a fact that all the 'experts' are wrong. 

Empaths definitely exist. Many empaths seem troubled by their experiences, but highly skilled empaths aren't just passive receivers. They can manipulate those fields as well. A dangerous combination is one of those skilled empaths that is also numbed to the feedback by dark triad personality traits. Even if they're unaware of what they're doing, just their nature makes them dangerous to others.

In paranormal nomenclature I think one could consider these people vampires. Not blood-suckers like in folklore and movies, but psychic predators. It can be framed as a psychological disorder, but in the end they are beings that are compelled to prey upon others to sate a thirst for drama, incite lust, cause fear, or whatever. It can even be for material gain, but even in those cases that material gain is just used to satisfy those desires.

[Nugget]

 I would very much like an opportunity to visit a place that has this kind of activity, or any activity, really.

I lived in such a place once. It was in an old section of Spokane, wa.; that whole town has always given me bad vibes.
My daughter was 2 months shy of her fifth birthday, and her behavior the whole month we lived there was off the charts. She would get up at 4AM and quietly do whatever she wanted.
She filled her baby brother's crib witha new, family-sized box of cornflake; she filled my steam iron with syrup. She 'decorated' a tree in the back yard with Christmas ornaments, and used a box of dishes like frisbees, throwing them into the road.

Years later she told me an old 'witch' would wake her up and suggest things she should do.

Late ne night my sister-in-law and I were sitting across from each other, talking. I began to see someting, and would stop in mid sentence for a few seconds as I watched tiny silver sparkles of light shoot across the top od the wall. My SIL was doing the same, and she finally said "Are you seeing something strange?" I said "Yes! Don't tell me what you're seeing; let's write it down and compare notes." We were seeing the exact same phenomenon.

That house just felt evil, and I was SO glad when we movedd back to Montana at the end of the month. It took a couple of months to get my daughter's aberrant behavir under control.
One night we had come home late and she had fallen asleep in the car. My husband carried her into the house, laid herr on the bed and she began hysterically screaming and crying. All I could think of was something like a ruptured appendicts and tried to sooth her enough to tell me where it hurt, but she fell back asleep and was peaceful again. 
Come to think of it, that's about the time her behavior change back to what it was before our brief stay in Spokane.