Interdimensional Beings: A Research Summary

[Nugget]

Terrance McKenna had something to say about the machine elves . . .

Thank you for posting this, Nob! It gives me a different angle to explore. 

I don't know much about D MT (can we saay that here?) , but I remember reading about the 'hallucinations' people have at death and researchers postulaing it may be caused by a realse of that chemical by the brain at the time of passing. 
I assumed the brain was responsible for producing D_MT, but a quick search brought up:

However, the exact sources and mechanisms of endogenous DMT production in the human body remain unclear.
Some studies suggest that the adrenal gland and lungs may be the primary sites of DMT production.

I've always been interested in psychedelic journeys, but never considered the experiences to be another actual reality, for some reason. I've just thought of them as life lessons from our higher self, universal consciousness, drug-induced strange fantasy, or ? 

I was a teen when the hippie era started and always envied those who took 'trips'. I never did, for one because my interest in medicine had me wondering if such things could alter ones' genetic make up. Some genetic defects are known to skip a generation, others two generations. I waanted to have a family, so didn't think the risks were worth it, not even with weed. 
I also had a pretty big fear of the unknown, and the things I imagined I might meet on such a trip scared me more than anything else I could think of.  If reincarnation is truly a thing, I must have had a really bad trip in a past life! 

[MykeNukem]

 D MT (can we saay that here?)

Of course you can. We're after the truth, not censoring it.

[Ksihkehe]

I don't know much about D MT (can we saay that here?)

Psilocybin may help you overcome the PTMD (Post-Tyrannical Moderation Disorder).

I've always been interested in psychedelic journeys, but never considered the experiences to be another actual reality, for some reason. I've just thought of them as life lessons from our higher self, universal consciousness, drug-induced strange fantasy, or ? 

Neuroplasticity probably has something to do with it. As we've discussed elsewhere there are some people that seem naturally inclined to anomalous experiences. These psychoactive compounds seem to cause increases in neuroplasticity, which in turn can open up new or atrophied perceptual pathways. You can also just trip balls and hallucinate too, so like dreaming or altered states there's the issue of what is real. Not to mention the question of what "real" even is beyond whatever it is we perceive.

I didn't think of it until just now, but I wonder if they've done any experiments using the improvement in neuroplasticity from these compounds to help people with brain damage to learn how to do things again. The brain is highly adaptable so rerouting tasks is possible, but often takes people a long time and a lot of work. I wonder if they've tried it.

I seem to recall that trauma, causing things like PTSD and severe depression, can result in atrophy or decreased brain function in certain places. That same neuroplasticity may be what allows them to overcome. It's easy to dismiss it when it's framed as a spiritual journey that solves the problem, but that could be just a common side-effect that helps lay these new pathways to circumvent problem spots in the brain. I think the journey doesn't hurt and the awakening is helpful to cement it as well.

[NobodySpecial268]

DMT in Voynich terms would be considered an opener.

Like McKenna said, shaman use DMT to talk with the little people who live underground.

So it is not DMT that creates hallucinations. Rather, DMT opens pathways in consciousness.

McKenna met the machine elves, who are considered children, and we all know what happens when a children's party gets out of control : )

[NobodySpecial268]

Maybe I should explain my saying the machine elves are considered children.

That was the warning given to me when encountering the little people et al, and not because they are children per se. In Mckenna's venture into the land of machine elves, the "adults" would not be far away supervising McKenna unnoticed.

Rather the word "children" is used to tell one how to behave there, and how to behave with them.

There is a need to take the position of an "adult", and them "children". We are expected to behave as adults in these situations.  Children need understanding and kindness from adults, and more importantly, it is a warning not to get angry with them.

Therefore, McKennah found himself the centre of attention at the equivalent of a "children's party". Even if he described the machine elves as "badly trained Rottweilers" they are still "children".

One picks these nuances up along the way.

[Nugget]

Psilocybin may help you overcome the PTMD (Post-Tyrannical Moderation Disorder).




Neuroplasticity probably has something to do with it. As we've discussed elsewhere there are some people that seem naturally inclined to anomalous experiences. These psychoactive compounds seem to cause increases in neuroplasticity, which in turn can open up new or atrophied perceptual pathways. You can also just trip balls and hallucinate too, so like dreaming or altered states there's the issue of what is real. Not to mention the question of what "real" even is beyond whatever it is we perceive.

I didn't think of it until just now, but I wonder if they've done any experiments using the improvement in neuroplasticity from these compounds to help people with brain damage to learn how to do things again. The brain is highly adaptable so rerouting tasks is possible, but often takes people a long time and a lot of work. I wonder if they've tried it.

I seem to recall that trauma, causing things like PTSD and severe depression, can result in atrophy or decreased brain function in certain places. That same neuroplasticity may be what allows them to overcome. It's easy to dismiss it when it's framed as a spiritual journey that solves the problem, but that could be just a common side-effect that helps lay these new pathways to circumvent problem spots in the brain. I think the journey doesn't hurt and the awakening is helpful to cement it as well.

It seems they may be doing studies, but my guess is nothing will come of it until they've found a way to synthesize the compounds to ensure a slower recovery and greater monietization for the medical complex.

The ACA seemed to put the medical industry at the top of the financial heap. The entire medical industry is the monster in everybody's closet and the boogeyman under our beds.

[MykeNukem]

Which one? I've had so many throughout my life. 

I learned long ago that people love the topic but it scares them to the point that they lable you as a weirdo, a freak and ridicule you, so I tend to hold my experiences in.  I KNOW what I've experienced, and I don't throw my pearls before swine, so to speak. 

Some are too painful and personal to share, but they have served to convince me that, no matter how strange, they've all been real. I can only guess as to how or why they happen, which I suppose is my way of coping.

I don't mean to be cryptic, but I'm not quite sure how to go about sharing without sounding like I'm some kind of nut case. I will give it some thought and see if I can figure something out. Maybe I'll just start with 'Once Upon A Time....'

Heya Nug,
Yea, 'Once Upon A Time' has been the start of many a great adventure! 

But, I know what you mean. I've never really had any experiences like that but I can see why someone would be apprehensive to share it.

Then again, we already know you're a nut case .. 

[Nugget]

Then again, we already know you're a nut case .. 

You ain't seen notin' yet! Hold my beer while I make another Voodoo doll.....